[identity profile] stryck.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] crowdfunding
Thanks to being nominated for the Rose and Bay award, I have gotten more organized with my poetry. I have a new tag, "poetry kitchen", for my poetry-on-demand posts and the poems that come from them. From now on, those will be known as "Poetry Kitchen: Feast of Poetry" or "Poetry Kitchen: Sonnet Side Up" or "Poetry Kitchen: General Tso's Haiku".

Hmm... Warrior haiku might be therapeutic, actually.

Anyway, I plan to do another Poetry Kitchen post as soon as I decide if I want to attempt another Feast or do something more narrow. Also, since I am able to accept tips now, I am pondering tip incentives. I might offer a second poem to tippers if tips reach a certain level, or maybe I could say that if they reach a certain level, I will sit down and write a long poem (ode or ballad or saga), and then offer topics for people to vote on.

Any thoughts from the brain trust out there? What kind of tip incentives work for writers?

(xposted to my own journal)

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Date: 2011-03-06 09:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] aldersprig.livejournal.com
I'm still working on what-works-for-tip-incentives; when I donate money, it's for one of three reasons:
1) a piece really speaks to me
2) a cause really speaks to me (sick kitty, for example)
3) the call for $ is so clever I can't help but donate

Donations to my webserial seem to be completely random; people read a bunch and then go "oh, yeah, I should give you some money for this, shouldn't I?"

Aah... 4) Djinni, I think, has a good grasp on the tip incentives; I'm just not sure how to translate them to writing. I know that I'm more willing to promote his Free Icon Days on the off chance I'll get a 3rd icon if enough people donate.

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Date: 2011-03-06 09:55 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] eseme
I'd agree that [livejournal.com profile] djinni has some good ideas.

Knowing what my donation represents to someone is neat for me, as a donor. "I bought half a pizza for someone whose work I like" is neat. I know donations to [livejournal.com profile] haikujaguar go to coffee, art supplies, or cool things for her daughter. That makes a donation personal.

Group goals are cool. Being able to say "We're $10 from an ebook" during the Drakeathon that [livejournal.com profile] aldersprig ran was cool, and it made me promote more, because I wanted an ebook. Same thing with extra icons from [livejournal.com profile] djinni.

Individual people generally can't donate every time. I only started donating in 2010, and it tends to be either for projects that I just love, creators who I really admire, or for a good cause (Spots the Space Marine donations partially go to charity, and the story is amazing). I tend to follow a project for a while before I donate. Being able to buy a specific poem, as with [livejournal.com profile] ysabetwordsmith's Fishbowl, is a nice incentive - I bought one poem I liked and had the extra incentive to buy it because other people were asking for fairy door poems.

I don't have any projects up myself, but I hope this helps.

Edited to fix Ysabet's name.
Edited Date: 2011-03-06 09:57 pm (UTC)

Thoughts

Date: 2011-03-06 10:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com
>>Thanks to being nominated for the Rose and Bay award, I have gotten more organized with my poetry.<<

Yay! This is good to hear.

>>From now on, those will be known as "Poetry Kitchen: Feast of Poetry" or "Poetry Kitchen: Sonnet Side Up" or "Poetry Kitchen: General Tso's Haiku".<<

*laugh* I love your titles.

>> I might offer a second poem to tippers if tips reach a certain level, or maybe I could say that if they reach a certain level, I will sit down and write a long poem (ode or ballad or saga), and then offer topics for people to vote on.<<

Those are good ideas.

You can see the perks I use for my Poetry Fishbowl on the landing page:
http://ysabetwordsmith.livejournal.com/730515.html
Frex, if there's at least one new prompter or donor, I post a second freebie poem. Donors also get access to the donor perk-posts that I write, which are mini-essays on poetry and other topics.

Casting off ideas most randomly

Date: 2011-03-06 11:55 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kytsune.livejournal.com
I'm not familiar with poetry writing when it comes to tips and incentives; but as a novel and long fiction writer, I know how useful some sort of incentive can be. Especially when attempting to galvanize a smaller group of readers into displaying their presence if not actually helping me make enough to buy the next cover. ^^

Pretty things: As people have mentioned before, having some sort of sub-goal or "if tip-jar fills up this far" can go a long way to allowing visitors to see how their contributions work towards a common goal. The idea of bonus writing and bonus stories can develop this hugely; for those braver writers it might even be dedicating the poem/segment to person/persons who helped get it released.

Heck, in the case of a series of poems if there's three stanzas and three people got the tip jar to the bonus stage, could just tag each stanza with a name.

Preview content: With some web setups registered users can be given special permissions for a period of time. And a lot of writers prepare their segments in a buffer ahead of time. People do like getting to be ahead of the curve when it comes to drama -- so if people get to see it a day or two before actual release because they tossed $1 in the tip jar this month. That feels like a suitable reward to many.

Lottery or vote-with-tip: In the case of stories with compelling and strong characters, giving people a lottery technique so that they can submit the name of a character they'd like to see a canonical side story written about and then using that to choose one (or more) to guide bonus stories might be another suitable reward.

...still thinking myself.

I'm somewhat poor on the actual eliciting funding myself and instead keep an old fashioned model of selling books and shwag; my promotion skills are yet somewhat dulled. ^^

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